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Upgrading from 2.5.1006.46 to 2.5.1008.19


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#1 Cerbera

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 09:35 PM

Upgrading SmartFTP is generally a smooth and pleasant experience. However, there are always a few niggly things. So when I upgraded from 2.5.1006.46 to 2.5.1008.19, I decided to document what happened and how I felt about it:
My system information:
+- System -----------------------------
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 
Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

CPU Speed		 : 1410 MHz
Total Memory	  : 511 MB
Free Memory	   : 186 MB

+- SmartFTP ---------------------------
Version		   : 2.5.1008.19
Time Stamp		: 2007-11-28 17:14:31
Platform		  : x86

+- Application DLL --------------------
sfFTPLib.dll : 1.5.11.14
sfFavorites.dll : 1.0.4.19
sfFavoritesShellExtension.dll : 1.0.1.4
sfTransferQueue.dll : 1.0.1.19
SmartHook.dll : 1.0.2.2

+- Language ---------------------------
SmartFTP.exe	  : 2.5.1008.19

+- Internet Explorer ------------------
Version		   : 7.0.5730.11

+- Winsock ----------------------------
Winsock		   : 2.2
I use the Native Windows theme.

I have notes for many niggly things in 2.5.1006.46. Should I see if they still exist in 2.5.1008.19 or the latest beta before making a new topic about them?

(EDIT) I noted a few bugs separately on my SmartFTP 2.5.1008.19 page, with screenshots.

Edited by Cerbera, 29 November 2007 - 09:44 PM.


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Posted 08 December 2007 - 12:06 AM

Thank you for your feedback. We will look into it.

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#3 Cerbera

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 04:07 PM

Would it be more helpful if I made a topic for each distinct bug, or are you happy to work from that web page?

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Posted 10 December 2007 - 04:35 AM

The web page is good ;-)

#5 Cerbera

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 09:39 PM

Has much progress been made on this? Should I write an account of upgrading to the newest version?

#6 Cerbera

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 09:11 PM

My SmartFTP version is about to expire. Should I document the experience I have while upgrading? If nothing has been done on this yet, I would prefer to avoid documenting the same problems all over again.

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 09:37 PM

Hello ..

You are welcome to document your new findings. However you can leave out the things you have previously documented.
If you prefer you can also order your points by importance and/or highlight the 3 things you consider the most important.

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#8 Cerbera

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 10:20 PM

Thanks for the prompt response! Those are good ideas.

Here are the main things I noticed when upgrading from SmartFTP 2.5.1008.19 to SmartFTP 2.5.1008.40 just now, ordered by importance:
  • All my UI preferences seem to have been carried forwards faultlessly. Yay!
  • Still created a shortcut on my desktop which I didn't ask for or have any way to prevent.
  • I still have a folder at C:\Program Files\SmartFTP Client 2.5 Setup Files\SmartFTP Client 2.5 Setup Files. No other program seems to require 2 folders in the Program Files area.
  • Installer still uses an old-fashioned, Windows 95 style icon. I have a SFTPNSI.exe in that folder which has a modern, Windows XP style icon.
In case it helps, here are my system specs (should be same as last time):
+- System -----------------------------
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 
Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

CPU Speed		   : 1410 MHz
Total Memory		: 511 MB
Free Memory		 : 138 MB

+- SmartFTP ---------------------------
Version			 : 2.5.1008.40
Time Stamp		  : 2008-02-13 19:44:35
Platform			: x86

+- Application DLL --------------------
sfFTPLib.dll		: 1.5.12.24
sfFavorites.dll	 : 1.0.4.40
sfFavoritesShellExtension.dll : 1.0.1.5
sfTransferQueue.dll : 1.0.1.40
SmartHook.dll	   : 1.0.2.2

+- Language ---------------------------
SmartFTP.exe		: 2.5.1008.40

+- Internet Explorer ------------------
Version			 : 8.0.6001.17184

+- Winsock ----------------------------
Winsock			 : 2.2
The improved experience with carrying forward my UI preferences is very welcome. Thanks!

Edited by Cerbera, 07 March 2008 - 10:23 PM.


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Posted 07 March 2008 - 10:42 PM

>Still created a shortcut on my desktop which I didn't ask for or have any way to prevent.
A lot of users were not able to find out how to start SmartFTP after the installation. That's why there is a shortcut on the desktop. You can easily delete the shortcut.

>I still have a folder at C:\Program Files\SmartFTP Client 2.5 Setup Files\SmartFTP Client 2.5 Setup Files. No other program seems to require 2 folders in the Program Files area.
>Installer still uses an old-fashioned, Windows 95 style icon. I have a SFTPNSI.exe in that folder which has a modern, Windows XP style icon.
These are unimportant things. Why should we use a 100kb fancy icon for the installer?

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#10 Cerbera

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:48 AM

A lot of users were not able to find out how to start SmartFTP after the installation. That's why there is a shortcut on the desktop. You can easily delete the shortcut.

Indeed. However, I already have a shortcut to it in my Quick Launch. A checkbox in the installer (ticked by default) saying Create a shortcut on the desktop is present in other installers. That avoids doing:
  • Show the Desktop.
  • Look for the shortcut SmartFTP added.
  • Delete it.
  • Confirm the Recycle Bin warning.
  • Put the windows back as they were.
It won't solve climate change, sure. But it would save tidy people some mild annoyance each time they upgrade. ;)

I still have a folder at C:\Program Files\SmartFTP Client 2.5 Setup Files\SmartFTP Client 2.5 Setup Files. No other program seems to require 2 folders in the Program Files area.

These are unimportant things.

I disagree. Creating a slight mess of your user's Program Files folder is important. If every app did this, that folder would be even harder to manage.

Being considerate towards the user by keeping the install as tidy as possible just seems like the right thing to do.

Why should we use a 100kb fancy icon for the installer?

I'm pretty sure .ico files are less than 100kB in size! The favicon.ico for this forum is 2.5kB. It only has the small sizes. I doubt the larger sizes would add 97.5kB. The SFTPMSI.exe I have is about 5MB, so a 100kB icon would add about 2% to the filesize. If the icon is 10kB, which seems a more realistic figure, that would add about 0.2% to the filesize. 0.2% filesize increase for a touch of class? Bargain!

The installer is the first thing SmartFTP users experience. They experience it again with each upgrade. Giving it the excellent icon from the SmartFTP client would slightly enrich those experiences. The installer already has nice graphics, such as the top right corner here:
Posted Image

So yeah, giving the client the classy icon seems in sync with what you already provide, without busting teh intarwebs.

Edited by Cerbera, 02 April 2008 - 04:52 AM.